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: well, i'm based in irving, texas, at the university of dallas, where i'm a professor of politics. c-span: is that a full-time job still? >> guest: right. yes. c-span: and when did you--early on in your life, or maybe it wasn't early on--start thinking about things like the constitution or the declaration of independence or the founding fathers? >> guest: well, it took me a while to get there. i was a student in the '60s and '70s of leo strauss and some of strauss' students out in claremont; actually, originally, a student of allan bloom's at cornell, then i went out to claremont. and originally, i was really focused on the study of obscure texts in the history of political philosophy written by dead white males like plato and cicero and people like that. and my first book, in fact, was an interpretation of plato's apology of socrates. but it really wasn't until the '80s that i got interested in a serious way in american politics and i used my knowledge of the history of philosophy to help to understand the principles of this country. and i think it really did help, as a matter of fa
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